Recently, we’ve posted a couple of articles and videos on climbing, and there’s a good reason for that.
Climbing is a great activity for building total body strength and mental acuity, and Ryan is just a little obsessed with it.
But that doesn’t mean we’re claiming to be climbing experts and getting ready to release Climbing One. And we’re not just showing off about Ryan’s ability to climb a rope.
Here’s a snippet of what Ryan had to say on the matter:
It’s not a show off sort of thing. It’s not about what I can do. It’s really about showing you what you can do.
In this episode, Ryan and Andy talk about climbing, our recent “Skip the Kip” campaign, GMB seminars, and a whole lot more.
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- (01:05) Japanese mayo vs. American mayo
- (02:27) Our recent Skip the Kip campaign
- (03:31) Why we DO NOT hate Crossfit
- (04:11) The kipping muscle up is different from the traditional gymnastic kip up
If you really need a yellow shirt, go get some Fruit of the Loom.
- (05:30) We’ve got seminars coming up in Australia, California, England, and possibly more.
- (06:07) Want to host us for a seminar? Want to find out when and where our upcoming seminars are? Get in touch.
If you want us to come to where you are, you’ll need to help us find someone who can host us and find us a facility.
- (08:24) Our recent tutorial on climbing.
- (08:35) Case study on Sami Laakkonen, an accomplished climber
- (09:15) Ryan’s experience with climbing
- (12:08) We’re not claiming Ryan is some kind of rope climbing expert.
When we post a video, we’re not saying this is the only way to do this skill. We’re just saying, here’s one way to try this thing.
- (13:38) We’re trying to show people these movements are accessible.
- (14:41) Ryan recently posted this video of his aerial practice.
- (15:52) Many of our clients are better at some of these things than we are, and that’s great.
I’m always open to suggestions because all I want to do is learn and become a better coach for the people that are involved with what we’re doing.
- (17:50) The recent video Yuri Marmerstein and Miguel Santana posted of their time training together
- (18:38) We want to share cool stuff with our members and our community. We don’t own all the cool stuff – not by a long shot.
- (18:50) Some things to consider when climbing
- (20:09) As far as you climb up, that’s how far you have to climb down – so be safe
- (20:58) Take care of your elbows.
The training for some of these more advanced things needs to live within a program. You can’t just add one arm chin training onto other stuff without taking into consideration the net effect of the training. It’s not just a single thing.
- (24:30) Always take into consideration what else you’re doing to make sure you can actually fulfill that time commitment
- (26:48) “We’re not trying to convert you to the sport of GMB… It’s not a method of training that’s trying to be a sport. This is a general fitness methodology that you can use for better performance in whatever your sport is (even if your “sport” is just taking care of your kids).”
- (28:04) A special audio note from Brian.
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Andy: So as you probably gathered by now, this is the GMB Japanese Condiments episode and we’re going to be discussing some of our favorite side dishes, condiments, toppings and – no, we’re not going to be talking too much about that.
Ryan: Oh, damn. I was kind of looking forward to that.
Andy: All right. Breaker, breaker one-niner on the interweb. Get your ears on for the GMB Fitness Skills Show. My name is Andy. For the next 30 minutes plus or minus, Dr. Ryan here and I who’s not an actual doctor, we’re going to be talking about all kinds of stuff related to fitness, movement, health, and just being a good damn person. How are you doing Ryan?
Ryan: I’m great man. I like your shirt. What shirt are we sporting today?
Andy: Today this is the Kewpie Mayo logo tee. If you’ve been to Japan, you know that mayonnaise is kind of a different situation there than it is in the Western world.
Ryan: Oh yeah, mayonnaise is good in Japan. Yeah.
Andy: Yeah. I am a big fan of the Kewpie one half brand of mayo.
Ryan: Yeah, that’s good stuff. It is.
Andy: It is, it is.
Ryan: Yeah, mayo. You ever go to Japan, check out the mayo. Very different from the Miracle Whip kind of thing going on in the United States. So good stuff.
Andy: Yeah, the greatest thing about Japan is like America we have all these sauces and different things. In Japan, they’re just like red sauce, ketchup. White sauce, salad dressing, mayo. It’s all the same.
Ryan: Mayo. And you ask for mustard and they’re like, “Excuse me?”
Andy: What? Never heard of that? Yeah. So yeah, so as you probably gathered by now, this is the GMB Japanese Condiments episode and we’re going to be discussing some of our favorite side dishes, condiments, toppings and – no, we’re not going to be talking too much about that.
Ryan: Oh, damn. I was kind of looking forward to that. We are going to be talking about some fun stuff today. We’re going to be talking a little bit about climbing. We’re going to be talking about climbing. We’re talking about seminars and let’s start it off talking about our T-shirt, the Skip the Kip T-shirt. What’s up with that Andy?
Andy: Man, so we made these shirts starting off as a joke. We weren’t even planning to sell it and then everybody said that they wanted five of them. So we got more. We put them up for sale. They sold out. Then we started getting hate mail from people that were like, “You should have ordered more.”
All right. Well, you should make your own damn shirt. All right? Seriously. So we have ordered more but we’re a small company. We don’t – we can’t stock like 1000 shirts. Sorry, guys. But within another couple of weeks, we will get them back in.
However, the overwhelming support and love of the Skip the Kip T-shirt, just the tip [0:03:09] [Phonetic] T-shirt has encouraged some people to then send us all these messages – are you OK?
Ryan: Oh, that was so funny. Keep going. I’m not going to say anything.
Andy: That’s good, that’s good. To send us all these messages also asking why we hate CrossFit because one, CrossFit invented the word “kip” and two, saying that we don’t like kipping means that we hate CrossFit. Obviously these people passed their Logic 101 courses and so yeah, number one, I can tell you we do not hate CrossFit. I actually think CrossFit is pretty damn good and I know a lot of people who do it and love it and are super strong.
So there’s that. Other thing is we just don’t recommend kipping. I don’t care. You can give us 81 reasons you love kipping. We still don’t recommend it.
Ryan: By the way, we’re talking kipping muscle-ups or kipping pull-ups. The kip, this is what’s interesting. The kip to me, the gymnastic kip is actually what’s called the glide kip. Well, for the women’s on even parallel bars, things like that, use a kip and a kip is just simply a way to get up above the bar. So yeah, the kipping …
Andy: And it’s useful in some things.
Andy: It’s useful for parkour, whatever. It’s a technique though. It’s not an exercise.
Ryan: Yeah, yeah. Skip the kip. Yeah, and again we’re a small company and our main thing is not selling T-shirts. Stock that – we don’t want to fill up Amber’s – it would be kind of funny though to like completely fill up her apartment with yellow Skip the Kip T-shirts. She’s the one who’s milling all those up. She’s doing a great job of doing that. Once we have those in stock, we will let you know, so yeah.
Andy: Until then, relax. Everything is going to be all right.
Ryan: It’s all good, it’s all good.
Andy: If you really need a yellow shirt, go get some Fruit of the Loom and it will totally be all right.
Andy: All right? So let’s also talk about seminars. We’ve gotten a lot of questions about seminars and we’ve actually – pretty soon we’re going to have a lot of news about seminars. We’re going to have seminars for sure this year in Australia and California, in …
Andy: Are we ready to talk about the other country?
Ryan: Sure, let’s hit it.
Andy: Yeah. We’re going to have Ryan’s first trip to England.
Ryan: Fish and chips baby! Everyday.
Ryan: That’s all I’m going to eat. Yeah, I will be in Cambridge. Looking forward to that.
Andy: Yeah. Maybe a couple of nearby countries. We will see. We’re not sure about that yet. Yeah.
Ryan: If you are interested though in hosting us, get a hold of us and we can talk about what needs to happen in order to make that happen.
Andy: Yeah. Every time we mention seminars, we get messages that say, “Oh, why don’t you guys come to Western Tennessee?” or “Why don’t you guys come to Germany?” or something. We would love to. We would so love to. But we can’t just like pop up in your town and call you up and say, “Hey, this is GMB. We’re here. So come on over and let’s train.”
It doesn’t work that way, right? We’ve got to have a place to do it that has our equipment needs and everything. We’ve got to have somebody helping promote us locally so that we can get enough people there to cover the cost of sending Ryan from Japan of getting him away from his family for three or four days. That takes a lot of planning and work.
So if you want to know why we don’t come to wherever you are, it’s because you have not yet set it up. You’ve not set it up. If you want us to come to where you are, you need to help us. Help us find somebody who can host us. Help us find a facility. Help us make sure that it’s all getting taken care of. All right?
We would love to be able to take care of all of that but none of us are in publicity and PR or events specialists. We’re kind of fitness trainer guys.
Ryan: Yeah, kind of, yeah.
Andy: So the logistics, we need some help with sometimes. All right? But we would love to come see you. So get in touch. Send us an email, firstname.lastname@example.org. Goldmedalbodies.com/seminars if you just want to know when the seminars are happening. Sign up there and we will let you know and keep an eye on our Facebook. We definitely have a couple of surprises coming up probably before too long in the seminar sort of arena that we can’t talk about yet because …
Ryan: Yeah, we don’t want to say anything and it not happen. So I want to make sure that it’s all set, good to go, before we make the official announcement.
Andy: So let’s talk about climbing.
Ryan: Yeah, climbing.
Andy: Recently we posted a couple of things on our website. We posted a kind of tutorial on some climbing techniques on exercises for climbing for people to try and also we posted a case study with one of our members Sami who is also a climber and he kind of inspired a lot of the stuff when he started training with us back a couple of years ago and got to talking with Ryan and I realized that they both had this love of rock climbing and so yeah, I really – my experience with climbing is yeah, none. I was going to try to come up with something clever, like climbing the stairs or something like that.
Ryan: That’s so awesome.
Andy: Yeah. I’ve gone bouldering once and it was really challenging and cool and fun. Yeah, I used to climb trees when I was a kid but that’s about it. But luckily, Ryan actually knows what he’s talking about when …
Ryan: Yeah. I spent a lot of time climbing growing up. My dad is really, really interested in and involved with climbing. Boy Scouts, I was a Boy Scout, Eagle Scout. So we would spend a lot of time especially in Colorado. We go to Colorado quite a bit and do a lot of lead climbing.
For those of you who don’t know what that is, basically using a rope and instead of having a rope go from the top down in which you climb and someone belays you and they’re not pulling you up but the rope is in front of you, you actually climb, pull the rope up, lock it into place where it depends on what you’re doing. There are different kinds of climbing. I’m not going to go into the traditional climbing, pole climbing, everything like that.
But basically you’re pulling the rope up and so a lot of experience with that, also bouldering. Bouldering is great. For me, it was good when I first came to Japan because I didn’t need any equipment. As a matter of fact, here at the gym, we’ve got just some really basic rock climbing wall that I use with the kids. They like that but my kids really enjoy rock climbing.
I took Sienna a couple of months ago I believe. I don’t remember but anyway – and she did her first top rope climb on the rock and it was awesome. She had a good time. So since then …
Andy: I remember seeing pictures of that now.
Ryan: Yeah, yeah, I posted a couple of pictures of that. So interesting thing. You’ve got the rock climbing stuff and I say stuff because there’s so much – there’s many different ways of climbing that way.
Andy: It’s several sports. It’s not just even one thing. It’s several different sports.
Ryan: Then you can even look at ice climbing and whatever but you got rope climbing. You’ve got tree climbing. You’ve got pineapple tree climbing. I mean all these different kinds of stuff and the thing is there isn’t just one way to do it and so this article that we did, we’re just taking a look at some of the rope climbing things that you can use some examples and I want to be clear by the way. I am not – what is the proper way? It’s like silks when people use the silk.
Andy: Oh, the aerial.
Ryan: Aerial stuff like that, yeah. I’m not into that. Well, it’s not that I’m into it. It’s just I don’t do it. I’ve never done it before and some people are like dude, the technique for rope climbing is not good. As a matter of fact, Yuri a friend of mine, he gave some good advice to me after that video came out. He was like hey man, the next time you want to do it, you might want to try to do it this way and stuff like that.
So I’m not a pro when it comes to rope climbing or anything like that and even rock climbing. I’m not a professional but I do know a few techniques when it comes to rock climbing and things like that. So when you see me on the wall, I would just try to show a couple of variations of that.
There’s a lot of different ways you can climb the rope. There’s tons of different ways you can climb trees and things like that. I think that it comes down to looking at having fun with it. Challenging yourself and exploring, trying to find something that’s new and a way that you can move your body and a way that you previously hadn’t done that before and I think this is a good way of looking at the examples that I demonstrated in that video.
Andy: Yeah, and I just want to say before you get into the details on that, like that’s really – that’s why we make videos though. There are a lot of people that do different things, have different ways of expressing what they do in teaching.
For us though, we’re not making a bunch of things to show off. We’re not making highlight reels. It’s not – so when Ryan makes a video that’s about climbing a rope, it’s not hey, look at me climbing a rope.
We’re trying to show the very basic things and we’re not saying this is the one best way, the ultimate way, this is how everyone should do it. You’re saying hey, this is one way that you can start now trying to do this thing.
Andy: And it’s fun. We’re trying to get people in to starting things. We’re trying to show people how it’s accessible to learn different kinds of movements. It doesn’t really help anyone for us to put together a video that’s like here’s the most advanced thing I can do. Now look at it and be impressed. How does that help anyone?
Ryan: What you’re seeing generally, pretty much all the times when I’m posting a video whether it be on Instagram or a tutorial that we do, this is something that of course I’ve trained and to be able to do that. But it wasn’t that I was training for hours upon hours just for that particular tutorial. This was like for example the rope climbing one. I hadn’t climbed a rope quite a while. I mean that was just me like here’s where I currently am. Here are some examples of climbing the rope.
So I don’t – the other day, I posted a video of me doing an aerial. Now, I got to be honest. I haven’t done an aerial in a very long time and I didn’t just post the very first one I did that day. Of course I did it a couple of times to make sure I could still do it.
Andy: Make sure you didn’t break your neck.
Ryan: Make sure I didn’t break my neck. But this is the thing that hopefully people understand about us here at GMB is that it’s not a showoff sort of thing. It’s not about me. You’re saying, look at me, I can do all this cool stuff.
No, it’s about all of you out there and I’m just trying to show all of you that at 41 years old, I’m just having fun doing this stuff. I want to do it to help all of you out there, show ways that you can do it safely and get the skills that you want to get.
So we’re not looking at saying OK, by following GMB, you’re going to be able to become a circus performer tomorrow. No! There are concepts and things that you can learn in GMB that will help you with that but that’s not really our goal.
Andy: I will say that there are many, many people who are members and our clients who purchase training from us and do coaching from us. There are many people who are in that category who are better at some of these things than we are.
Andy: There are many people who can climb a rope better than you can.
Ryan: Oh, yeah.
Andy: That are using our stuff.
Ryan: Oh, yeah.
Andy: So we’re not saying – we’re never saying that this is us and this is the ultimate pinnacle of anything. So I mean – and also if you happen to be with these people that’s better at climbing a rope, Ryan is not going to be upset with some feedback either.
Ryan: In fact someone posted on – I don’t remember who it was. It might have been Verity. I can’t remember but she shared the link to our article and someone below it posted the technique is horrible, blah, blah, blah.
I replied to that and that doesn’t hurt my feelings at all. It doesn’t. Really it doesn’t because it’s not an ego thing for me. My reply, I wasn’t being a smart ass at all. I was simply hey, that’s great. Thank you. If you have any tips, feel free. Share a video with me and I’m being honest about that.
Andy: Please share a video with me.
Ryan: Seriously, I mean I am. I’m like I want to learn. I really want to learn. So you brought up a great point. There are a lot of people out there who are a lot better than me at doing a lot of stuff and that’s cool.
I’m always open to suggestions because all I want to do is learn and become a better coach for the people that are involved with what we’re doing. So that’s it.
Andy: Which is why we don’t have Rope Climb One.
Ryan: That’s right. Yeah, you’re not going to be seeing anything like that which is another reason why I’m not going to be doing …
Andy: Rope seminars.
Ryan: Yeah, ropes or I’m not going be doing one-arm handstands, kind of stuff like that. There are people out there that are just light years beyond me. A good example, just woke up this morning and two people I really admire, Yuri and Miguel. Yuri is visiting Miguel right now.
Andy: That’s right. I saw that.
Ryan: Man, they posted – I just – it’s just so awesome and the cool thing to me to be honest about this is yes, the techniques and everything, what they’re doing is wow. It’s cool but just the fact that they’re working together and they put all their ego to the side and just said hey, listen, let’s make a video and let’s train together and have fun. I think that’s really cool. Kind of off topic but basically that’s GMB right there in a nutshell. We’re not about saying oh, we’re better than everyone else out there. We’re about learning and wanting to become better at what we do and working with cool people. So just like me, working with Mike Fitch, doing that seminar.
We want to enjoy and share things with our posse and our Alpha Posse, introduce other people and show people that there’s great stuff out there.
Ryan: So getting back to the climbing portion of it, when climbing, there are some things that I suggest you make sure that you consider when doing this and that is if you are climbing a rope and this is the first time that you’re climbing a rope, be safe. You might be able to get up there but depending on the height of the rope, we don’t want you falling down.
When I was in Sydney actually, I had the opportunity to climb with – I forgot what they called themselves, the – goodness gracious! Anyway, Marcus Bottay, he’s the guy. Very, very neat guy. He holds the Guinness Book World Records for a rope climb in his team for speed climbing.
They have a rope hooked up on the rocks. There’s a cliff, underneath a cliff. Yeah, and they let me climb it. And you know what? I mean I climb fairly well and I had confidence climbing. But that really freaked me out and the reason why is because if I were to fall, they would be scraping me up with a spatula when I was done.
So when you are climbing, take that into consideration. It might be fun to try and climb all the way up to the top of the rope but in the beginning, I suggest only go on about halfway. Go where you feel safe working and using the technique that …
Andy: Remember however high you climb up, you have to climb back down.
Ryan: You have to climb back down, exactly.
Andy: There’s the fast way down and you don’t want to take it.
Ryan: Nope. The kids, this is – climbing a rope is a big part of what we do over here in Japan with the kids and the kids – first time they climb, they actually get up there. I help them. They want to slide down the rope.
Ryan: Now you don’t want to do that. You really don’t want to do that. So we teach the proper position for the hands and things like that. So little things like that, please take into consideration and understand that it’s not just a series of just doing pull-ups. It’s quite different. But the rope climbing will get you very, very strong.
Something else though to make sure to do is proper warm-up but take care of your elbows. Overworking the rope, really anything. You could be working on the front lever and using ice cream makers to get your front lever better.
It can really play havoc on your elbows, tendonitis, things like that and especially the rope. So take care that you’re really listening to your body and making sure that you don’t overdo it in that case. I know a lot of people working on one-arm chin-ups that end up getting elbow issues because they’re overworking their arms. So …
Andy: It seems like almost everyone who work on that …
Ryan: Pretty much, yeah.
Andy: … tend to get tendonitis at some point. I’ve never heard of anyone who has gotten it without having a problem.
Ryan: It’s one of those things and because it just takes so much work to do it. Yeah, I don’t want to say well, it’s just something that’s going to happen. I mean if we’re smart about it, hopefully it won’t happen but just understand that there’s a good possibility that it will.
So just like with rope, if you’re doing all of these pulling exercises, like I heard a guy. He was like yeah, I do a lot of rope stuff and he said, “My elbows hurt.” We’re talking about it and he says, “I don’t know why.” I said, “Well, how much rope work are you doing?” He said – I was like well, that doesn’t seem to be too much and he said, “You know, but I’m also doing one-arm chins on the rings and I’m also doing this. I’m doing this.”
So you also have to think about the other stuff that you’re using in your program and take that into consideration.
Andy: And with that said, also that’s kind of why we make programs too. People ask, “Well, why don’t you just make a tutorial on this move or this move or this move?” and the biggest thing is that the training for some of these more advanced things needs to live within a program because you can’t just add on like one-arm chin training on to other stuff without taking into consideration the net effect of the training. It’s not just a single thing, right?
So that’s why we make these programs the way we do because it’s kind of – it’s the full training ecosystem, right? So we’re not saying that you have to buy our stuff or you can never learn anything but you have to approach that with the same attitude that everything you train, everything you do goes into it especially when you’re getting into more advanced, more difficult, more stressful exercises and movements. You always have to approach it from that holistic viewpoint. Otherwise, you’re probably going to be caught with an injury.
Ryan: This is something we recently talked about in the GMB trainer course. We’ve got quite a few people, new additions, trainer candidates and who are training other things but also need to of course work on the trainer course material.
So we want to make sure especially with the GMB trainers because there is so much work involved that they’re not burning out. Yeah, another example is we have the Muscle-Up Course right now that we’re working on and it’s a lot of work because our focus is mainly on the muscle-up and so, little things that can have big effects that you don’t want for example ripping on your wrists, and overtraining the elbows like I was mentioning because we’re working on that full script and things like that.
So always having to take into consideration what else you’re doing to make sure that you can actually fulfill that timeframe to be able to get the muscle-up or whatever else you’re working on. So it’s about – I want to say health but I don’t want people to think that we’re talking about like healthy. I’m just talking about joint integrity, being able to actually keep doing what you want to do without getting injured so that you can not have to take a break for six months because you have tendonitis in the elbows because that sucks.
Andy: Yes, yes.
Ryan: Back to the climbing thing, there’s a lot of different ways to do it. Exploration, that’s a big one. Learn how to do it safely and then play. If you’ve never bouldered before, there’s so many bouldering gyms that they have nowadays.
Andy: Yeah, it’s surprising sometimes that you might not know that there’s one there. It’s usually tucked in some like industrial park somewhere where the rent is cheap and they have big, open spaces.
So you’re not going to like be driving by the strip mall and happen to see a bouldering gym. You’re not going to be downtown like going to a restaurant or something and see a bouldering gym next door. So you have to look for it. Google it. Search it out.
But if you live in a pretty large area, there’s probably something and yeah, I would say go check it out. I went with a friend and I was like, “I don’t know. I’m not really too much into this,” and we went and I started and like four hours later, they’re closing the gym. I’m like, “Man! What? Come on. Turn the lights back on.”
Ryan: It’s fun and it can be really …
Andy: Then the next day I was so sore, so, so sore.
Ryan: But your forearms look like Popeye, right? Yes.
Andy: Oh, man, it’s awesome. Yeah.
Ryan: We talked quite a bit about climbing and everything today. Anything else to add to that or …
Andy: Well, I just want to say we have a lot of people I think that are into different sports. For example, we did the case study with Sami and he’s a climber and he has used GMB stuff. We don’t have any climbing programs but he has used Rings One, Rings Two. He used the flexibility program and our movement course. He has used all of those and he said that they’ve all really helped him out a lot in his sport and that’s really kind of the point is that we’re not trying to convert you to the sport of GMB. It’s not gymnastics. It’s not CrossFit. It’s not a method of training that’s trying to be a sport.
This is a general fitness thing that you can use for better performance in whatever your sport is and like we sometimes say, even if your sport is just taking care of your kids or if you’re not old enough to have kids, whatever it is you do. But yeah, Sami used our stuff for climbing. We have a bunch of people that use our stuff for climbing and really it’s just a matter of whatever the thing is that you’re doing.
Find something that seems like it will complement that and yeah, use the stuff. If you have an activity that you’re not sure, send us a message. If your sport is like dressage or something, you might have to send us a video before we’re able to give you a recommendation. Sorry. I don’t know what the physical demands of some sports are but send us an email anyway. I would love to hear from you.
Ryan: OK. I think we also need to give a shout out to Brian. Is that correct?
Andy: Let’s see. Let’s see if I can make this – let’s see if the recording was – so Brian sent us a note.
Brian: Hey guys, I love your show.
Andy: We love you too.
Brian: GMB. I hope you guys stay the same. You guys are awesome. Just thank you guys. Thank you.
Andy: All right. Thanks, yeah. You’re awesome too Brian.
Ryan: That’s great.
Andy: I really appreciate it and yeah, we’re going to stay the same. You don’t get to be this much of a jackass and suddenly stop being a jackass ever. I’m sorry. You’re stuck with us, dude. That’s the way it is.
Ryan: That’s the way it is. All right.
Andy: Our personality flaws are not going anywhere.
Ryan: Yeah, it’s kind of like what you see is what you get.
Andy: But if you got a message you would like us to play on one of our show episodes or a question you would like to ask or anything, click the button that’s on the page where the video and everything is. Yeah, it’s there and you can leave us a message and we will play it back and yeah. Answer any questions, make fun of you, something like that.
Ryan: All right. All right everybody. Thanks for listening and until next time. Have fun.
Andy: All right. Thanks
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