Abel James, author of “The Wild Diet,” host of “The Fat Burning Man,” and trainer on ABC’s “My Diet Is Better Than Yours,” stops by the GMB Show to talk with Ryan about the Wild Diet and share his own transformational story.
You’ll also hear the inspiring story of Kurt, Abel’s contestant on “My Diet Is Better Than Yours.” Thanks to The Wild Diet, Kurt lost 87 pounds, dropped 22% from his body fat, and is off all his prescription medications after 14 weeks.
Listen as Ryan and Abel dive into the specifics of The Wild Diet, what Abel puts on his plate every day, and how going wild on your diet will produce better results, than adhering to the usual restrictions and limitations.
Abel James is a #1 best-selling author, top 10 App Developer, musician, radio show host, entrepreneur, and veritable health crusader. You’ve seen Abel in WIRED Magazine, Paleo Living, and hundreds of media outlets in business, technology, psychology, and health.
Hailing from the frosty backwoods of New Hampshire, Abel James lives with his kitchen co-pilot, Alyson, and his rambunctious yellow lab, Bailey, in Wilder, Tennessee. Abel enjoys strong coffee and cheesecake. Preferably together.
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- (01:00) Who is Abel James?
- (02:12) Learn how Abel came back after a near tragedy to transform himself into the Fat Burning Man.
- (03:45) Ok, I’ll bite. What is the “Fat Burning Man”?
- (04:15) An introduction into Abel’s “Wild Diet” and how two gorillas taught him how to eat properly.
- (08:00) What does the Fat Burning Man eat on a regular basis following the Wild Diet?
- (10:00) How “strict” is the Wild Diet and why Abel will never allow himself to go on a real “diet.”
- (13:00) How Abel’s openess to adventure landed him on the show, “My Diet Is Better Than Yours.”.
- (15:40) Learn about the wild and simple strategy Abel used to enable his contestant, Kurt, to achieve an amazing transformation on the show.
- (18:22) What’s next after the show? Besides, music, travel, writing, and hosting a show, Abel chooses to follow life’s breadcrumbs.
- (20:00) A full body bacon costume helped Abel lead from an ego-less positive space. Leading in the health space truly takes a positive rather than negative approach.
- (22:00) How can we get started with a Wild Diet approach to health and life and make sure we stick to it? Hint: stay one step ahead of our bad decisions.
- (26:00) How can you afford a Wild Diet? Not all “health food” is healthy. Make it as fresh and clean as you can.
- (30:00) To learn more about living a Fat Burning life, check out Abel’s site and podcast. Maybe Abel will come back to preview his crooning abilities?
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Ryan: Hey, welcome to another edition of the GMB Show. Now, in this show, today, we’re talking with Abel James, TV celebrity, author of The Wild Diet, as well as host of the hit podcast, the Fat Burning Man. What’s up, Abel? How you doing, man?
Abel: What’s cooking, Ryan? Good to see you, man.
Ryan: I’ll tell you what. This is the first time I’ve ever interviewed a TV celebrity, so I’m pretty excited about this. I’m pretty nervous, man.
Abel: Stop saying that.
Ryan: Pretty nervous. Before we get going, really cool. Actually, a mutual friend introduced us, Steve Kemp, great guy, as well, and I got to congratulate you. You’re on new TV program and we’ll be talking about that in a little bit. Unfortunately, we won’t be able to go too in depth into that because we still want to make it a secret for everybody watching. Before we get going, can you give us a little bit about yourself in depth, what’s going on, and let my listeners just know how awesome you are, man.
Abel: Come on. Yeah, so I’ve always been a health nut and I love exercise and that sort of thing, but I’ve had this up and down path as it relates to that. I was following a lot of conventional wisdom. I was running for a long time, and that approach to exercise worked for a while, but when I started taking my doctor’s advice, as I got my first job, I got insurance. It was the first time I’d really been in Western medicine. With my family conditions, there’s high blood pressure, some heart problems, thyroid problems, various things like that, and gaining weight as you age. I wanted to nip that in the bud, and so my doctor put me on a fat, low cholesterol diet. That was the first time I’d ever really thought about diet in that way. Over the course of time, over the next few months, I got fatter and sicker and ran out of gas, and thyroid problems, and all the things that I was trying to prevent started to come true. I saw that that had happened to my dad before that.
Long story short, it took coming home one night, my apartment building burnt down and I’d lost everything. It was a traumatic event that sometimes shocked people into changing, so for me, at that point, all I had literally was what I was wearing. I looked in the mirror, and I’m just like, I looked like I was 40 years old. I was so tired. I was puffy. It was nothing like the person that I wanted to be, and I was trying to be so healthy at that point. I really made it my mission to take my health into my own hands and I found that basically everything I knew about health and fitness was wrong. I really dug into the research. My background’s in studying brain science, so I’m a total nerd and I just decided to learn how to hack my body, and it was remarkable how easy it was. I was annoyed when- I should be super happy, but I started doing the opposite of what my doctors were telling me and getting all of these incredible results. I’m just like, “Everyone needs to know this stuff.” I started up my show, “Fat Burning Man,” and the blog, and started writing. I had been writing about health for a long time, but I started Fat Burning Man because it’s just like, “All right, I’m going to do this and just see what happens because I believe in it that much.”
Ryan: Let’s explode it. Your podcast, the people that you have on there, including me-
Abel: Yeah, totally.
Ryan: -just great. The information, and the way that you approach things on your podcast is just wonderful, this information and bio-hackers, as you like to say for yourself, and really putting out this information and looking at all sides of things instead of thinking that it just should be one way. Really love it. The Fat Burning Man. A lot of times you might see that and think it’s just, well, let me just be honest. It just sounds like, “Oh, it’s a six-pack, abs, shortcut kind of thing,” at first. A lot of people might think it’s some big event in the desert.
Abel: Been there.
Ryan: Looking at it again, it’s not that. It’s the information that you present and the way you present as well. It’s really refreshing and it’s a joy to listen to it. If we can go down a little bit deeper here and talk about your diet, look at exactly what you’ve come up with, and you call it the Wild Diet. I’d like to hear a little bit more about that, and overview of that. Yeah.
Abel: Absolutely. The Wild Diet is basically going back to eating the way that nature intended. Fresh foods, simple ingredients, and it’s something that the wild diet, at the beginning of my book, that’s the name of my book, and at the beginning, I redefine what diet is supposed to mean. It’s not one of these things where you go hungry and miserable all the time. You’re restricting all these foods. A diet is supposed to mean the foods that you habitually eat. I’ll give an example. The natural wild diet for a gorilla, wouldn’t be specially formulated biscuits developed by a nutritionist. There’s a story that I include in my book and I tell sometimes about these two gorillas that they found were getting heart disease. That happens a lot of times to zoo animals because they’re confined, they’re not moving and a lot of times they’re eating these special formulated foods that are supposed to meet all of their nutritional value of what a gorilla needs, but when they look at it, they’re 50 pounds overweight a lot of times in zoos. They’re dying early. They’re getting heart disease. Pretty similar to what we’re looking at-
Ryan: I was just going to say, yeah.
Abel: -in the Western world. When you look at that, when they found out what was going on, that basically these biscuits were causing the gorillas to be fat at the Cleveland Zoo, they started feeding them what a gorilla would naturally eat in the wild.
Ryan: Which you would think they would have done in the beginning.
Abel: That’s basically trucking in a bunch- What’s that?
Ryan: You would have thought they would have done that in the beginning, but hey.
Abel: Right. It’s one of those things where you assume that science knows everything, and a lot of people think that way about food. If we know everything a gorilla needs, we’re going to put it in a biscuit and they’re going to eat it and they’re going to be fine. The truth is, they start wheeling out all of this produce, basically, just all of these fibrous veggies and some fruits and some flax that it was supplemented with. They were eating twice as many calories. Both of them, heart disease reversed, lost all the weight. That’s how I explain the wild diet, because that’s the way that humans can eat, too, the things that we’re naturally supposed to eat that we’ve been eating for thousands of years in the quantities that make sense. You don’t see a fat coyote.
Abel: You can apply a lot of those learnings from nature to the way that humans eat, too.
Ryan: I got you. Yeah, man. It’s very interesting, and the veggies part of it is huge for me. Living in Japan, I considered myself lucky because there’s still this connection with vegetables and the culture. It’s not just, “Oh, that’s just what we eat.” It is the culture, and a lot of it is based around that. Of course, rice, but looking at each season has these particular vegetables and there’s many different ways to prepare it, so it’s part of the culture. I do, unfortunately, find that when I go back to the United States or even when I’m in Australia, that if I were to order vegetables, it’s a side dish and it’s typically basically broccoli, or carrots, or a side salad.
It’s just so interesting what you say. You would think that you have this animal in a zoo that you would feed them what is typical for them in nature, but again, looking at it for us, too. It’s the same way. You’d think that we would be smart enough to do that. It reminds me of, remember the cartoon called “The Jetsons?”
Abel: Mm-hmm, sure.
Ryan: Maybe you’re too young to know that. I’m aging myself. Remember how they had that capsule that, they wouldn’t eat a real meal. It would just be a capsule and it would turn into something. It reminded me of that. I hope we’re not going that way.
Ryan: The Wild Diet, though, going on this, could you give us an example of what you would eat on a typical day? I know everybody’s going to be different, but just give us an overview, what you ate today.
Abel: Yeah, absolutely. If people have heard of the paleo diet, it’s similar. One of the problems, though, is when people hear about paleo, they’re thinking, meat first, Atkins, it’s a total meat fest. With the wild diet, it’s basically looking through our ancestor’s eyes at health, but it’s not necessarily saying, “You can eat this and you can never eat that.” It’s more of a principle of how to eat.
When you look at your plate, you want it to be mostly vegetables, like you said. Colorful, heirloom varieties, heritage varieties, the old-school versions of fruits and veggies. THey’re higher in so many different nutrients. They tend to be lower in sugar, higher in fiber. I’m sure, in Japan, you can experience that when you look at these things that have been growing forever. They’re beautiful, they have flavor as opposed to in America, you’re just eating garbage vegetables. It’s really looking at the quality of your food, not just saying, “Get a salad.” You focus. You make vegetables the base of pretty much everything. You want to eat mostly vegetables all the time. It’s free food. Eat as much as you want. It’s fantastic for you, but more importantly, it’s going to make you feel great. Then you combine that with proteins that come from wild caught fish raised on their natural diet, or grass-fed, pasture raised animals raised on their natural diet, because when you’re eating a food, you’re eating a whole food chain, and so if you’re eating factory farmed animals, sick animals, those health effects translate to you. Looking at quality meats and eggs and that sort of thing.
Then, nuts. Maybe a bit of rice. Some starch, but not going crazy. Not making starch and grains the base of every meal and the thing that you’re putting meats on top of or extra fats on top of or a little bit of veggies. Make veggies the base, and then you move up from there. You get the protein you need, nuts, seeds, some fruits. It’s fresh foods.
Ryan: Something that I don’t really like that really stood out. If you actually go on thefatburningman.com home page, you’ll see Abel on there, and he’s got a really cool t-shirt on, and I love it. It says, “83% paleo. The rest is for cigars and whiskey.” I thought that was pretty cool. Something as far as the wild diet, too, is not that it is so strict that it doesn’t allow for a little bit of fun. Not that, to me, eating vegetables and things like, I like that. A lot of people would be like, “Ugh, got to eat my vegetables.” For me, I like that. What I like about the wild diet, too, is that it allows for a little bit of extra stuff in there, if you would like it.
Abel: Cheesecake, chocolate, bacon.
Ryan: Yeah, heck yeah, man. That’s great.
Abel: I’m glad you said that, because I would never be on a diet. After doing what my doctor told me to do and seeing those horrible results, that’s not what I want at all. At the end of the day, I’m really just a foodie, and my wife is, too. We love food. There’s no way we’d ever give up cookies and cakes and muffins and pancakes and stuff like that. They’re a treat food. You don’t eat those for breakfast every day or whatever, but instead of going out and ‘cheating’ or whatever on the way that we eat and getting crappy pizza from some chain restaurant or going to Cheesecake Factory and getting whatever the heck they’re bringing out, we make our own cheesecake.
We make our own sweets. We make our own baked goods. We make them with real food and a lot of times, if you’re making red velvet muffins, for example, or cupcakes, the red color used to come from beets. They used to actually put vegetables in there. We started just putting in crushed up bugs and chemicals and weird stuff these days, and processed nonsense. When you make it with real food, we try to put beets into baked goods, sweet potatoes, old school. That’s the way that people used to do it when they ate real food. It’s just we’ve come so far away from getting nutrients in everything that we eat, that we’re not used to it. It tastes really good when you start eating that stuff again.
Ryan: Actually, that sounds really good to me. I know that good- Sorry, coming back to Japan once again- but it’s interesting because if you look at the sweetie treats that they have in the United States compared to the sweetie treats that they have in Japan, a big difference is that for one, the level of sweetness in the United States is just crazy high. Over here in Japan, we’re talking just a little bit. A treat over here would be a sweet potato prepared in a way that has a little bit of sugar or something on it, but that’s about it, or for example, my kids in the afternoon, when they come back from school, preschool, whatnot, one of their treats is actually seaweed. A lot of people would be like, “What the hell are you talking about?”
Abel: Really? That’s cool!
Ryan: There’s so many different types of seaweeds here in Japan and so dried seaweed. Nothing on it, just dried seaweed as is. That’s something that they enjoy to eat.
Abel: That’s awesome.
Ryan: I had to throw that out there because it just, thinking about something really wild, the wild diet, that’s a big thing that could be on there.
Abel: Yeah, totally.
Ryan: All right, man, we got to get into this. We’ve got to talk about the TV show. Recently, as a matter of fact, I believe it came out January 7th, if I’m not mistaken, is My Diet is Better Than Yours TV show. Again, congratulations for being on that. This is super cool.
Abel: Thanks, man.
Ryan: You can go to the Fat Burning Man site and you can see a big writeup about the TV show, and if you have the ability to watch it, please watch it. I’m in Japan, unfortunately. I haven’t been able to watch it due to international copyright.
Abel: Maybe we’re coming over there.
Ryan: Yeah, that would be really cool. I want to know a little bit about this. How the heck did you end up getting on this show? This is so cool.
Abel: I’m not someone who I ever thought would wind up on a reality TV show, but I’m always in the mood for a good adventure.
Ryan: Tell you what, man.
Abel: Someone actually Tweeted it at me. They Tweeted this thing. It was from a casting company and basically, ever since I started Fat Burning Man, I’ve been trying to beat out Jillian Michaels on the Biggest Loser and beat her out in the podcast charts and this big thing and whatever because I didn’t believe in that way of approaching health or weight loss or whatever. You don’t want screaming trainers. You don’t want people to believe that they need to be miserable if they want to lose weight or get healthy or whatever. I wanted to be the opposite of that. I want to teach people that you can be healthy and happy at the same time. I got this Tweet and it said, “No screaming trainers, no ridiculous stunts,” and they were looking for experts in nutrition and food-
Ryan: Like you. Not me, you.
Abel: I went back and forth a few times, and eventually it happened. The show is called My Diet is Better Than Yours. It’s on ABC. It’s hosted by Shaun T of Insanity, who’s just such a cool dude, and we’ve had a blast. It’s got celebrity trainers and experts. One of them is 50 Cent’s personal trainer and another one has trained Shakira, Jennifer Lopez. Then we have the author of the Flexitarian Diet, who does a semi-vegetarian thing. We have someone who’s all about motivation. We have someone who’s doing the vegan diet and cleanses, and then you have me, who’s doing the Wild Diet and focusing on real food and also doing things like intermittent fasting and getting back in touch with the way that our ancestors lived and primal movements and that sort of thing.
I can’t say what happens in the end because it’s still in process but I can say what’s already come out and that’s that I got paired up with Kurt, who’s this 47-year-old salesman. They’re all out of Atlanta, and he was in a serious car accident, head-on collision, a few years ago. When that happened, he had to get a plate put in around his neck and his spine. He has all these surgeries. He’s a Frankenstein of a man at 352 pounds. We’re basically, as experts, trying to get our people as healthy as possible and to lose weight at the same time. It’s interesting because it’s a weight loss competition, which I’m not a huge fan of, but I wanted to go on and basically show that you could use real food, you could eat things like bacon cheeseburgers, cheesecake, chocolate pudding, and all these other really indulgent things and still get awesome results.
In the first week, Kurt lost 16 pounds. By day 30, he’d lost 37 pounds and he’s just transforming in front of everyone’s eyes. We win the first fitness challenge. He turns on beast mode. He’s got this energy. He’s transitioning from- One of the other big things about the wild diet is that you’re not relying on sugar and carbs like most people do for the majority of your fuel. You’re actually fueling with fat. We got him fat adapted, which allowed him to burn an incredible amount of body fat, more than anyone else in the competition. That’s what gets me so excited, more than the weight loss, even is the fact that the body composition is changing and he’s getting stronger.
Ryan: Too, another thing, a big proponent of this, a lot of people, and you talk about this as well, it’s not just the physical aspects of it. The mental side of it, and the positive results, mentally that people can get out of this, I think, are just so wonderful. I’m very lucky in the GMB community as well because we see results where it’s not necessarily that they want six-pack abs. People might say they want that, but really there’s an underlying deeper reason for wanting something. Being able to actually change the body and make these positive things happen, just puts them in a complete different frame of mind in a positive way and allows them to do so much more out there. It’s so great that we’ve finally seen someone like you on these shows that can make this positive impact. Screaming trainers and belligerent, I never got that. That’s not me, and it’s just so refreshing to see you on there. Unfortunately I haven’t really seen it just yet. I can’t wait to see it. Pirate Bay. Anyway. No.
Yeah, man, this is so cool. Obviously this is going to be a springboard to great things. What’s next, man? What are you looking besides world domination? What’s next for you?
Abel: It’s been cool. In the past year, I spent my time writing my book and did that while traveling with my wife and with my dog. We’ve been living out of a trailer in a bunch of national parks. We went to Bali and Fiji and Australia. That was super cool. We’ve seen the world and then we came back and I did this show and I recorded an album. I’m all over the place.
Ryan: That’s right. Yeah.
Abel: It’s like old New Orleans style funk with the guys from the Tim McGraw band. Swamp thing.
Ryan: Steve was talking about that. Yeah, man.
Abel: I’m all over the place.
Ryan: We’re going to have to post that, too. Actually, this can be another topic next time. This is so cool, man.
Abel: I’ll croon for you guys.
Ryan: I totally forgot about that.
Abel: Yeah. It’s cool because I just try to follow life’s breadcrumbs. Who knows what’ll come out of being on TV? It’s a cool thing. What I really wanted to do with it is, we all kind of live in our little corners of the internet, and a lot of times we’re preaching to the choir, which is awesome and I love that we have that community, but at the same time, there are 99 plus % of other people out there who are desperately in need of help and have no idea, like not even close of how to build a meal or how to exercise in a way that’s reasonable and will get them results. I see myself, one of the strengths that I have is not really caring if I’m in front of a microphone or on a stage, just from being a little kid who is pudgy, playing clarinet at local diners and stuff. That’s me as much as this is. I don’t mind being a dancing monkey in the first episode. I dress up in a full body baby costume and so the first time I ever saw myself on national television, I was wearing a full body baby costume. It’s ridiculous.
Ryan: This is something else I love about you, though. It’s so beyond that ego-based kind of thing. Truly. When we first talked, it was like, “Man, this dude is just freaking awesome,” in the sense that, again, I’m so lucky. I think you’re the same way. In the community that we have, the fitness community, I’m lucky to have people that are extremely positive. My peers, who also are my mentors, it’s just wanting to be positive and it’s not about this ego where it’s me, me, me, me, me kind of thing. It’s really cool that I get to talk with you and communicate and learn from you and things like that and see a person like you that is able to make such a great positive impact on people. You bring up such a wonderful point. We all live in a little tiny area of Facebook or Instagram or this internet world where there’s actually so many people out there that need your help.
I think it can be very difficult for a lot of us out there. Right now I’m actually speaking more as like a trainer, and as a trainer gets sucked into our own world. I think, I know in GMB too, we’re trying to spread out and be there, for lack of better terms, for the regular guy. That’s what we’re after. I don’t think that it should be done in negativity and being positive like you are and spreading this good message of letting people know it’s not just one way. It’s what works for you.
Abel: Yeah, exactly.
Ryan: Looking at your book and some of the other things like your podcasts and things that you’re doing, I think it’s just wonderful, so I applaud you, sir.
Abel: Thanks, man.
Ryan: Very cool.
Abel: I love doing it.
Ryan: Very cool stuff. Hey, listen, man. Want to talk a little bit more, if it’s cool, about how we can get started. Bring things back a bit and maybe if you want to look even beyond the diet, but just look at where do we start in this realm of getting healthy? It can be so huge. Looking at the guy that you’re working with on the show, wow! Car accident, kind of a Frankenstein kind of thing- That was horrible for me to say it that way- but a lot of us aren’t that way. We have this body and we’re able to use it. Unfortunately, we don’t, but it can be very difficult to think about where we should start. If you could give us a little bit of advice in where you think that we could start and do it in a way that’s going to be not only positive, but also allow us to continue to be able to do it.
Abel: Yeah, for sure. A lot of people, they want to be healthy, yet they still make decisions that they know are bad for them. You want to be one step ahead of your bad decisions. One of the easiest ways to do that is if you don’t want to eat Ben and Jerry’s, if you don’t want to have ice cream, then don’t have it around because if it’s in the fridge, you’re going to eat. I would eat it if it were there.
Ryan: Oh, yeah. Me too.
Abel: It doesn’t mean you have to throw everything out in your house, although that really can help, but when you’re shopping, keep in mind, it’s when you’re shopping that it really matters. Go shopping and get the right things. Stick to the perimeter of the store. Get all the fresh stuff. A lot of the best advice is really simple. We all know it anyway. It’s like, eat your vegetables. 87% of Americans don’t, despite the fact that every wellness expert says that, despite the fact that doctors say that. The government even says that.
Ryan: Why do you think that really is? I’m going off on a different tangent here, but why do you think it is? I love vegetables. Again, maybe it’s because it’s so available over here in Japan and there’s so many different amazing ways to prepare it, but why do you think that is?
Abel: I think a lot of Americans were raised on those little cubed up frozen vegetables, those freeze-dried kidney beans. It’s just bland and tasteless, but kind of gross at the same time. I think most people are used to eating really gross bland vegetables. They’re not having fun with it. It’s not fresh. When you have fresh food, as opposed to food that comes from Big Food, the agribusiness or whatever that’s old and nutritionally devoid, it doesn’t taste like much. When you get the fresh stuff, when you pick kale or a carrot or parsnips or a fresh apple, it’s not even close. I think most people just haven’t had that experience.
For me, I didn’t just make this stuff up. It’s actually more where I came from. My mom is a holistic nurse practitioner. I grew up in the middle of nowhere in New Hampshire, and we would eat cranberries from the backyard, blueberries. We had pears and apples and peaches, and we didn’t have much money, so we always had gardens and we would grow that stuff fresh. It was me thinking that I was better than all of that, going to the best doctor and figuring all of this stuff out that really got me in trouble. It’s going back to that. I think a lot of people, they never experienced that growing up. I think from a generation perspective, we’re losing that knowledge that our parents and grandparents used to teach us about, “Here’s how you grow a vegetable, and by the way, you should be eating them, too.” We’re so disconnected from our food these days that I think a lot of us are missing out on that opportunity to eat awesome stuff.
Ryan: How can we get back on that? You brought up such a great point, stick to the perimeter of the store, things like that. Education. How can we become better educated? Obviously read your book. That’s the first start.
Abel: Or just go to my site. I’ve got tons of free articles. This information is out there if you know who to listen to, which is another whole thing.
Ryan: Cool, man. I think that people, and I’m sure there’s so much other advice. There’s tons of stuff you can do, but the perimeter, that’s a big thing. I know that. What about, for example, always the topic comes up. I don’t have the kind of money to be spending on wild fish or grass fed beef or whatnot. I don’t want to say necessarily an alternative, but what can we do about that?
Abel: I guess I’ll use an analogy. When you look at fancy sunglasses or something like that. There are the name brand ones. Then there are the cheap knock-off brand ones. The knock-off brand ones, they might look similar, but they also give you cataracts and eye cancer because they don’t have the correct codings that they say that they have and stuff like that. When you look at foods the same way, it’s like, if you go and you get eggs, and they’re from a bunch of sick chickens that were pumped full of hormones, synthetics, antibiotics, that were literally given arsenic so that they get fatter more quickly, that never got the chance to move their legs, and were also fed GMOs in a diet that is completely devoid of anything worth eating.
When you have those eggs and you put them next to the ones that are from the farmer’s backyard, where they were eating all these bugs and this widely varied diet that they’re naturally meant to eat, what winds up in that egg is not the same thing as what’s in the cheap knockoff egg. When you look at farm-raised fish, keep in mind that they’re fed poultry feces to fatten them as quickly as possible. Keep in mind that they’re fed all these chemicals and they’re living in their own stew of toxic waste. That’s what you’re eating. Compared to fresh, wild salmon that was raised in a clean environment. When you look at it that way, when you take one step further and every decision you make, whether it’s a burger or a piece of lettuce, make it as fresh and as clean as you possibly can.
When you do that, your taste buds adjust and over the course of time, Kurt, the guy I coach on the show, you watch his tastes change. He goes from being addicted to those little jello chocolate puddings, those horrible little handipak things. They taste like plastic. They’re not even good, but when you’re palate is so blasted with junk, you just don’t know the difference anymore. You stay away from that stuff for a little while. You ditch the sugar. Then we made his own chocolate pudding with a bunch of real dark chocolate and we used an avocado to make it creamy, and just combined it with a couple of other real food things and he said it was the best thing that he ever had. It changed his life.
Ryan: That sounds really good.
Abel: It’s so good, right? That’s what I mean. It’s not even close when you put in, it’s not even that much effort. Get some cocoa, get some avocado, throw it in the blender and you’re good. It’s really easy, and there’s no going back. You experience this and all of a sudden, you’re eating better than you ever have, and all of that fat that you had comes off, and not only that, it’s like, so many people write in and they have these experiences where it’s just like, “Yeah, I came into this to lose weight, or whatever, but this joint inflammation that I’ve had forever is suddenly gone, and my knees feel good and now I can go out and I can run again, or I can climb. I can do all this stuff I haven’t done in 20 years.” That’s just the magic of it is you get your nutrition under control, your inflammation goes down. You get your health back, and it’s a brand new life.
Ryan: Sounds pretty awesome to me.
Abel: It’s pretty awesome.
Ryan: Hey, man. I’m going to wrap it up here, but I just thank you so much for being on here. I’d love to have you on this show again.
Abel: Thanks, Ryan. Yeah, my pleasure.
Ryan: Talk a bit more about music.
Ryan: I like that. Check out the show, everybody. We’ll have all the information and links to the Fat Burning Man, to Abel’s book, the TV show, whatnot. Check it out, good stuff. Be sure to listen to Abel’s podcast as well. There’s a lot of good people on there, and the more information that you have, the better off you’re going to be, in this case, about what’s going to be good for you in order to live a healthy life. Thank you again, Abel. It was an absolute pleasure.
Abel: Ryan, thanks so much.
Ryan: Thanks, man.
Abel: Really appreciate it.
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