One of the coolest things that’s happened to us over the past ten years is that we’ve gotten to help people doing activities and sports we never would have dreamed up. Our clients are into some really cool stuff!
Rock climbing, surfing, martial arts, trail running, slackline, pole dance, and every traditional sport too.
And what all those clients have in common is that their main reason for doing fitness training is to get them better at the actives they enjoy or compete in. The biggest mistake we see happening is that the fitness side can begin to overshadow the application in their sport.
What a lot of people don’t understand is that there’s really three broad categories of training when it comes to fitness for sports:
- General Physical Preparedness – your overall health and function
- Specific Physical Preparedness -the basic movements and abilities required for your activity
- Sport Specific Preparedness – application to the specific context of performing in your sport
At different times in your careers (or season), you’ll need a different proportion of those three kinds of training.
You also need to make sure you’re not mistaking one kind of training for another or confusing your body by using the wrong exercises for the wrong purposes. This episode gives lots of examples so you can get a better sense of what’s important in your development and make sure that your workouts aren’t actually hurting your sport performance in the long run.
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Transcript of Don’t Let Your Workout Make You Worse at Your Sport
Andy: All right. Welcome to the Giant Milkweed Blossom podcast.
Ryan: Always good for those warts?
Andy: It is. I put a little in my tea every morning.
Ryan: You bet it’ll help with your asthma.
Andy: It does.
Ryan: Traditional medicinal remedies. I don’t know all of them.
Andy: A little known fact actually milkweed is the number one secret that separates top athletes from the rest of us morals.
Ryan: It helps with SPP and others we’re going to be talking about today.
Andy: We have a lot of our clients that come to GMB because they are trying to get better at something. They’re doing a sport or activity. Maybe climbing, maybe running, maybe martial arts or maybe CrossFit, maybe gymnastics. Even all kinds of stuff. Dancers … We have a ton of pole clients that do pole dance, really interesting stuff.
Andy: We have people that have contacted us that have found GMB trying to get better at activities that had never crossed our minds when we started this. It’s been really interesting to see and we want to talk today about how you should try to focus your training. Some of the mistakes people make when they’re trying to fitness to improve an activity. Because I think a lot of people think, “I want to get better at basketball, so I’m going to go to the gym and do these things.”
Andy: There are good ways to do that, bad ways to do that. We’re to talk a lot about that. I think that there’s a lot of assumptions that get made that are wrong, that make sense intuitively but are also wrong. In the other end of the spectrum, there’s a whole complicated field of physical therapy-based functional exercise where you have to have three PhDs to even put a workout together. Which is very valuable for high level pro athletes but is not just daunting, but a complete waste of time for anyone under the semi-pro level in our somewhat experienced opinions. Anything you want to add to that, Ryan?
Ryan: That’s great. In a nutshell, we’re going to be talking about a training for your sport or activity and basically how much do you really need?
Ryan: That’s what it just comes down to today. Again, this is just in our own personal opinion but we do have the luxury of being able to work with a lot of people and it’s a good thing that we do have the ability to do that.
Ryan: Let’s get right into it and just talk a little bit about some of these protocols, if you will. If we’re talking about training and the first thing we’re going to talk about GPP versus SPP. What we’re talking about with the GPP is General Physical Preparedness. This is basically preparing your body on a very foundational level. This is going to be different, of course depending on what trainer you’re going to be talking about. If you talk to a kettlebell guy, they’re going to be targeting about a reference to kettlebells.
Ryan: Of course the bench for a person is a gym rat, if you will, then it’s going to be different. There are basic qualities if you will, that are very general. We’re talking about things, for example like, proper pressing strength, proper pushing, proper pulling, leg strength, with just the basics. This means you do have not just the ability to be able to do something, but you’re working towards being able to start training capabilities. That’s really, the foundation and it’s actually unfortunate that, people have good intentions of working in improving their GPP, but there’s actually a lot of holes in their General Physical Preparedness.
Ryan: Lot of this stems from the fact that people want to jump too soon into some of the other things that are specific to that particular activity. Nothing wrong with that, of course. I mean, if you’re not a professional athlete but sometimes moving back and making sure that you’re showing up those General Physical Preparedness is really going to help you to improve the attributes that are going to help you with that particular sport.
Andy: I think a good way to think of GPP is that it’s really just basic good health and function. I used to … I’ve had a lot of computers, and I got though … My first Mac was an iBook that I got in 2003 and I used that thing for a long time and in fact, I still have it, I still own it. It still works. As you can imagine, it spends a lot of time in the closet. It’s one of those things, it’s … I occasionally when I’m back and when I visited my parents, it’s at their place, and I’ve opened it up a few times, like, “I think, didn’t I have a video on there that I wanted to check out or something?” So I’ll just get the whole iBook out.
Andy: But it’s funny because, you plug it in and then you hit the start button, and it takes like 45 minutes to boot up. Ridiculous! Then it tries to update the software and you go to a webpage now, it can’t even render the thing because it’s so slow. This is, I think, one of the best analogies for GPP is that, whatever skills you have, however much you love your sport, however, what kind of talent you have, you cannot run modern software on an old computer. GPP is like the difference between my 2003 iBook and a new MacBook right now.
Andy: Right now I’m using the current generation of Mac mini and it’s an order of magnitude better. In terms of the speed that is able to handle, the graphics processing and everything.
Andy: This is what GPP does. It doesn’t change the skills you have, it doesn’t change how talented you are, it doesn’t change how you work with your teammates or anything like that, but it’s all of these things that let you do the skills you need to do, that let you run the play, that let you jump up and shoot. All of that stuff. It’s super important but I think also you can take it way too far in the direction of trying to fix everything. You think, “Oh man. Well, my old computer doesn’t work. It’s getting kind of slow, I really need the fastest, best, highest tech computer on the market to surf the web and post to Facebook”. That’s just not true. You need to know where to draw the line there. Some examples of GPP, things that are super important and can make a big difference, but can also go really too far.
Andy: Posture. People working on posture. Your spine is important. Improving your posture is almost always going to improve the way that you carry yourself, your ease of breathing, how all of your movements work, your balance, all of that stuff improves with your posture. It can make you better at every sport, but over time, what’s the ROI of continuing to work on your posture until it’s perfect? If you’re also taking that time away from your sports practice too, and this is the danger with too much focus on GPPs. If you have a hole in it, if there’s an attribute, or if you have a dysfunction that you need to correct, or if you have basic skills you’re lacking, then that is absolutely going to affect, this is the bottom of the pyramid, so it’s going to affect your sports performance more than things further up the pyramid.
Andy: However, you will never have perfect posture. You will never … Your body will never be in imperfect function because you have decades of teaching it poor function. You’re not going to overcome that and you will never have mastered every fundamental skill. It’s a balance point in this. GPP … A little bit of continual GPP work is really good for most people but if you get stuck in GPP land forever, you will never progress in your sport because you’re … all of you … This is what happens when people stop practicing their sport and start just fitnessing all the time. Not to pick on CrossFit, but it is a lot of people that get too sucked into the CrossFit world when they got in there to do a sport. I think a lot of people in CrossFit are now or have graduated beyond that but it was a thing that we used to see a few years ago with people.
Ryan: They get stuck in just the strength training or even just flexibility work and thinking, “Oh, I’ve got to improve my flexibility when”… In fact you just need to be good enough to be able to do your sport, Or activity or whatever it is you’re doing.
Andy: People plateau and they think, “Oh, well the reason is probably I just need more mobility work.” No, probably the reason is you’ve stopped actually practicing your sport.
Ryan: Exactly. The big thing here, you want to get better at your sport or your activity, do more of that smarter. This is just one of the more common things we see. “What else do I need to supplement for my activity?” Well, maybe you don’t need a supplement. This is moving in towards actually where we’re talking about SPP, which is that Specific Physical Preparation. Basically, just making sure that, you’re focusing on whatever that activity is. That’s where, I don’t want to say supplement, but where it can start to specialize if you will.
Ryan: You’ve got the general strength, flexibility, control that you have going on and you start applying that to your specific activity. We’ll talk a little bit about some examples later, but this is really where you’re looking at moving towards the technique side of things for your activity and really trying to work on the performance side of things instead of simply, again, the strength, the flexibility and the control. you’re moving towards improving your capability to be able to perform whatever it is you are for that particular activity. The other thing too is another side of that is where we’re looking at even going deeper and so higher up on this pyramid if you will, where it could be looking at an SSP where, it’s even more sport specific there, right?
Andy: To clarify SPP is Sport Physical … Specific Physical Preparedness. SSP with two S’s is Sports Specific Preparation.
Ryan: You can even use an a like, activities, whatever. It doesn’t matter, but thanks for clearing that up cause this can be a little confusing and some people might not even … Might even add in that SSP there and just simply say, “Oh well I’m just focusing on my sport or activity” that’s fine.
Ryan: But I’d like to differentiate the two of these simply because, if you look at it this way is, you have this general physicality. That’s great, well then you start a new activity, a new sport, then the SPP would be then going on that next level to make sure that you can actually start working in that particular activity. Once you move beyond that, you start looking at specific things within your level that need to improve and where are you … In order for you to become a better athlete within that particular activity.
Ryan: This is where things can get a little confusing and unfortunately, a lot of people start to try and jump to that end where they’re trying to improve particular techniques, if you will, before they’re actually able to function in that particular activity. A great example would be if you see a person in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and they get hung up as a white belt on trying to learn submissions all the time. Well before you actually try to learn any of the submissions, you got to learn how to actually move your body. That’s a little bit different, of course, than just a general movement in real life, compared to being able to function on the ground when someone’s on top of you. This is the differentiation between those two. As you’re able to move your body, as a white belt, you start leading up to actually being able to perform techniques and that comes later down the road.
Ryan: Leading towards improv, leading towards flow and all that other good stuff that people always want to talk about and jump right into. Think about this is that, we want to talk about is the fact that this shouldn’t actually be complicated. So many people try to make this complicated and really it all comes down to the simple fact that you need to understand what’s good for you and what do you need.
Ryan: And this can be tough. The other thing that I do want to say is that whenever you’re training anything, the primary focus should be on being able to train this in a safe manner. Again, people can jump into things and it’s just like swimming. You want to ease yourself into going deeper and deeper and being able to do that comfortably instead of just jumping in where you’re literally over your head in the water and drowning. It can be tough to know how to do that.
Ryan: That’s kind of, today what we want to talk about and give some examples and how you can start looking at this for your specific activity.
Andy: Just to recap, GPP, General Physical Preparedness is basically health and basic fundamental abilities. This is just your bottom base of the pyramid of being able to use your body, and not having any big problems with that. SPP is your Specific Physical Preparedness is which this is kind of bridging that basic health and ability into things that are more sport like, closer to the kinds of moves that you want to be doing in your sport.
Andy: Maybe some techniques or maybe just, focusing on fitness related activities that move you closer to the kinds of movements and attributes that you need for your sport. For example, if you’re into a basketball, you don’t really need a whole lot of long distance stuff, but you might be doing short sprints and you’re going to be working on your jump instead of, you’re not going to be working on a lot of handstands and acrobatics for basketball. Your SPP, you’re going to be figuring out what you don’t need and what you do need to work on. When you get into SSP, that’s mostly just doing your activity and doing specific parts of it. So you get better at the things that you need to get better at and applying that to the real … To the live conditions of play if you’re at a high level of competition.
Ryan: To even, to look at this, another specific example would be if you look at it like a rock climber. You just basically in the very beginning looking at GPP, at that general, you’re preparing yourself and you want to get into rock climbing. Okay, Great. That’s a huge area. Then if you’re looking at SPP it’s just basically, having the strength to be able to pull your body up for this particular movement with one arm and using your legs. Then as you move in towards the SSP, then it can be separated into, for example, bouldering, which is a very specific branch of that particular, climbing world. You can look at lead climbing, you can look at alpine climbing. This is what we’re talking about and branching things off and just focusing and going deeper and getting more detailed based on that sort of thing.
Ryan: Let’s give some examples since we’re talking about it. In GMB, really we’re looking at six fundamental movement patterns. We have the push, the pull, the squat rotation, the roll and locomotion. If we were to break these down, I’m going to give some examples here. If we’re looking at the push, everybody pretty much understands this. If we’re just looking at these fundamental movement patterns of a push, an example could be the push up. Everyone knows what a push up is. Some of the other examples that we like to use in GMB would be the spider man, and for those of you who don’t know what a spider man is, basically shifting your body side to side and loading the body at an angle as you perform a pushup. We also have the bear movement. Now, this is also going in towards what I mentioned earlier as far as the locomotion.
Ryan: This is also what’s going happen or they’re going to be carries over into … Carry over into some of these and so they’re going to relate to each other because the body is not going to function simply as separate units. A push I think is pretty obvious for people as will a pull or you can have a pull, a ring row or you can have a chin up, a squat.
Ryan: An example could be a body weight squat, it could be a single leg squat, it could even be a broad jump, because that incorporates a squat. It’s also a hinge I do know that. We also have the monkey in terms of locomotion that we’re looking at where you have to squat and address the ground. Rotation for us would be, for example, a colt, which is … It looks like a single leg squat, but your leg is tucked behind you and you squat down and end up twisting your body under switch swipe.
Ryan: Some of these things might not be familiar to you, but basically you’re, twisting your body, you’re rotating your body while in motion. A roll could be a forward roll, shoulder roll, backward roll, locomotion this should be obvious if you’re listening to GMB here, if we’re talking about the bear, the monkey, the frog and the crab. These six fundamental movement patterns for us would be considered under that GPP side of things. This is really … I don’t want to say that these are, you must have these movements sort of things. These are suggestions to have a good understanding of … For the whatever else it is that you want it to do. So, the push, pull, squat, rotation, roll locomotion, it’s going to be different depending on what you’re doing but basically this is where we suggest for people to start.
Andy: They’re very broad and you know, there’s no rule that says that, for push you have to have, horizontal and vertical and you have to be able to do it bilateral or unilateral and every direction or at a certain level of amplitude. All of that is up to you and up to your situation. It’s just these are, based on kind of classic division of movement patterns and a little bit of what we do. It’s just kind of covering your basics and making sure that you have good combination of, control, flexibility and strength.
Ryan: Let’s give some examples. The first example that I’m going to give you is one that I’ve already talked about and that’s a rock climber. In this specific case, we have a person who’s coming into climbing and they’re going to be focusing on bouldering. For those of you … I think everyone knows what boulder is, but basically they’re shorter climbs, they’re more dynamic, you don’t use a rope and they’re not that high off the ground.
Ryan: So typically you’ll climb up and then you can jump off. In this particular case it’s going to be lot of long reaching. There’s going to be some dynamic movements where you need some power with your legs as well as being able to use your rotational strength. Pardon me, I couldn’t think about what it was going to do. You’re going to need some general pulling strength.
Ryan: You’re going to need some things like what I would suggest, some single arm rows. Now, I’m not suggesting anything too crazy. You do find, it’s interesting in the climbing world that people will want to jump up and say, “Alright, you need to start working on your one-arm chin-ups” and maybe if you start giving out a very high level for competition and things like that. If we were just looking at, preparing ourselves to be able to enjoy bouldering, a weekend athlete if you will, then this is where you don’t need to make things complicated and keeping things simple in your training is going to continue to make it safe and then also allow you to spend more time on the stuff you want to be doing, like your bouldering. That’s why general things like pulling strength or single arm rows, scapular … Scap pulls, things like that.
Ryan: Focusing on locomotion patterns on the ground that are going to simulate some particular movement patterns that you’re going to be doing on the wall. This is another thing too, is where, even though you’re not on the wall, some of the movements that you’re doing on the ground with locomotion are going to help when you convert that over onto the wall. It’s not just the physical part of it, it’s also creating that mind body connection in order to help you so that you’re taking that time off of the wall and immediately helping to improve it. This is something that I do with my Brazilian jiuj-itsu all the time. I’ll take local motion patterns where I’ll do solo drills, if you will, solo sparring, if you will, that stimulate and simulate some of the movements that I’m doing in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
Ryan: That allows me to be able to apply those later. I will say that these aren’t specific techniques. I want to be sure that you understand what I’m talking about. What I’m doing is helping to improve my strength, my flexibility and my control and doing it in a manner that’s going to allow me to continue and get better at whatever activity I’m doing. Again, some silly things that I do see people is when they go into climbing for the very first time thinking that they immediately need to improve their finger strength, they need to be doing fingerboard hangs, all of these other kinds of things but if you’re just getting into it, keep it simple. Just focus on being able to start climbing. I think that’s the biggest point here is that not overdoing it and just because someone who’s a very high level is doing something doesn’t mean you should be doing it. As a matter of fact, you probably shouldn’t be doing it in the very beginning.
Andy: This is the thing that I think is the crux of this too is, you don’t need to jump in to a high level of GPP or SPP. Just to be able to do an activity as a recreational athlete or as an amateur or … And most of us, let’s just be honest, recreational. We’re not even amateur competitors. We’re doing this for fun and for activity and because we like it. So, bouldering and climbing are a great example. I’m sure if you go onto Google and you say … And you look for fitness for climbing, you’ll find tons and tons of stuff and you’ll probably see some strength standards.
Andy: You’ll probably see some people say, “well, every climber needs to be able to do a one-arm chin up.” Or “every climber needs to be able to do, 20 pull ups” or something like that or I don’t even know what they might be, but you see these in every sport, you see that in every sport you’ll see somebody has strength standards. For football, you need to be able to pick up and carry somebody your size for 50 yards or something like that. The thing is these are all not … They’re complete bullshit for someone who’s doing this recreationally. I have not … I am not a climber. I have not climbed very much, but I have done bouldering exactly twice and I enjoyed it both times, and I can tell you for a fact I cannot do any one arm chin-ups, at all and I cannot hang from my fingers for very long.
Andy: But I was still able to enjoy bouldering with friends and have a good time because I have a pretty basic broad level of general physical preparedness. I have enough hip mobility that I wasn’t completely stuck, but not nearly so much hip mobility as some of the people that had their legs wedged up by their ear, getting up to the next level of the bouldering gym. This is the thing where you don’t have to meet anyone’s standard, you don’t need to buy a fingerboard just because you’ve started climbing.
Andy: But you might start doing some hanging from a bar and working on the pulling prep movement that we teach and some pull ups and it will help you get a little more strength for that, and you might start working on your hip mobility so that you can use your legs more and start doing some of these twisting movement So you have that rotational strength, you need to move up there with the locomotion.
Andy: But that doesn’t mean that you are limited from starting at all until you have achieved some arbitrary standard that some genius on the internet came up with. That’s true of a lot of things because people get these really weird ideas. I mean, I grew up doing martial arts and I remember used to see in martial arts magazines and people talking about doing punches with lightweights and stuff.
Andy: Because it makes sense intuitively you think, “Oh, I want to get stronger with my punch. Strong … Weights. I should hold a weight while punching.” What this really does is, besides messing up your joints, is it trains your CNS to punch slowly. It’s also the load is completely the wrong direction. The load of a weight is always down, you’re usually not punching down, so when you’re not punching up either you’re punching horizontally.
Andy: So, it when … It doesn’t pass very simple analysis of what’s really going on, but lots of people I know, I still know, did tons of weighted punches, tons! Because it just made sense. Just add resistance to the movement we’re doing, right?
Andy: Practice kicking in a pool. I mean, there’s a place for that, but it’s not going to make you better at kicking.
Ryan: Absolutely. Well, this is a great example too leading into our next thing, as far as surfing. It’s interesting that you’ll see people, working on a wobble board, they’ll do banded squats on a stability ball.
Ryan: And, and I get that. I really do. It’s just like what you were saying before. I’ve seen people do weighted paddling with the arms, because just like you said, it reminded me of the punching for, out there whatever you’re doing with weights.
Ryan: But the thing is, unless you’re a professional athlete, you’re probably going to be better off keeping things super easy. It’s going to be safer. If you’re going to be doing weighted rowing or not rowing but paddling for your surfing, really it’s going to, bang up your shoulders. Something that’s probably smarter would be simply swimming, going and swimming. You’re going to be doing a lot of paddling if you’re swimming in a pool. You’re also going to be improving your breath retention, which is also important when you’re surfing, when you get pulled under the waves when you fall, and as well, it’s going to also help you to get more comfortable in the water anyway.
Ryan: It’s also going to be helping with improving the core. The other thing is maybe just focusing on trunk mobility as well as rotational strength by using local motor patterns or just focusing on the popup on land in order to get better at popping up with timing, balance for the legs, strengthening the legs for that. Those are really two things that you could be doing as far as your training, that is definitely going to help with your surfing. Instead of doing something silly like these, weighted bands on stability ball or weighted paddling where it’s actually probably going to just injure you. This is really what we’re just trying to talk about is that the practical and realistic for what you really need to be focusing on and understanding what you really need and a lot of times people don’t want to hear this, but you just need to be good enough to be able to enjoy your activity and continue to enjoy your activity.
Ryan: That’s why, Andy mentioned this earlier, with my Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, I love it but I don’t compete. I’m not planning on competing to be honest, it just doesn’t interest me. All I want to be able to do is get on the mat and continue to do it. So, what do I need to do in order to do that? It doesn’t mean that I need to be training every single day for that or anything. I just simply need to make sure that my body is strong enough. I have good enough flexibility and good enough to control it, to continue working on that. If you are a generalist, for example, there’s a lot of different activities that you’re looking at. Then just take these six fundamental movement patterns that we’re talking about here in GMB and I guarantee you those are going to be good enough.
Ryan: For example, for the push we talked about that, spider man, this pushup is also great. A pull, you don’t even really need to have, 10 chin-ups or anything like that. It could just be a matter of your pulling strength to be a reverse row on the rings, a shrimp squat, a broad jump, being able to do a forward and a backward roll, it’s going to help with control. It’s also going to help with spatial awareness as well looking at, for example, rotational strengths and rotational awareness, spatial awareness, the cartwheel you do squat to a three point bridge. We’ve also got locomotion, the bear monkey, frog and crab. There’s so many different ways that you can do this but again, just think about being good enough for whatever activity that you want to do.
Ryan: It comes down to your goal and assessing what you need. Really that’s it. I’m not telling people that you shouldn’t strive to be a better version of yourself. A lot of people misunderstand that when we say good enough, what I’m just trying to say is, yes, be better each and every day, but doing it in a way that’s going to allow you to continue to do that instead of just drilling you into the ground and making you to this puddle of just jelly that you can’t do anything else. Focus more on your activity and looking at your lifestyle that’s going to help you to be able to do the things that you want to continue to do.
Andy: I also just want to say, we’re not saying that you should … That there’s no place for things like functional fitness or for therapy based training. There’s a big difference between someone who is a competitive golfer and they go to a coach and that coach wants them to work on a more symmetric trunk stability and rotational strength and so, they might have them doing like nailing wood choppers with a cable. That does not mean that you as a person who enjoys golf sometimes needs to install a cable machine in your home. What you probably need to do is some basic spinal mobility and stability, work, some rotational movements and then go and enjoy playing golf.
Andy: But if you have a problem that you’re trying to solve, well that’s where a qualified professional might tell you, you need to be doing, a band resisted balance ball something.
Ryan: And that does have a place-
Andy: That’s up to that person. That’s for solving a problem. That’s not for, for an amateur recreational person to say, “I want to get good at surfing, so I’m going to start doing this weird ass exercise.”
Ryan: This is a really good point too, that you bring up, and this applies to me as well and this, I mean, my ankle, I still have issues with my ankle having broke it, what was it, three some years ago, I still work with a physical therapist and they give me these exercises to make sure that I can continue to rehabilitate my ankle and continue to get on the mats and do the stuff that I want to do. We’re not saying don’t do that stuff if you need to be doing it.
Andy: If you’re fitnessing for the purpose of an activity or a sport, this is what it comes down to. Understand the difference between GPP, SPP and SSP. Understand when you’re just building your foundation, when you’re building skills for your sport and when you are just practicing skills for your sport.
Andy: And know that you have to come up with the right balance of those different kinds of training. If you devote all of your time to fitness training, there’s a point of diminishing returns on that improving your sport. Because after a while, you’re just taking time away from your sport. Once your basic fitness level is good enough, you do the fitnessing that you need to maintain that and then you should spend the most of your time more productively practicing the skills and techniques of your sport.
Andy: Like people who do martial arts, yes, you do need to keep rolling and you do need to keep practicing your kicking or your forms or whatever, but you’re practicing the things in your sport. You probably don’t need to spend more time doing sprints once you are at a certain level, You seem to maintain that. The whole point of this entire discussion, I don’t know how long we’ve been talking now, is just saying don’t get distracted by the wrong type of training for your activities.
Ryan: That’s right. And just to finish it up, figure out how you can spend more time doing your activities. That’s really what it’s about.
Andy: Yeah. Because that’s the fun part, right?
Andy: All right. Have fun.
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