Injuries suck, and can be an unfortunate yet expected part of building a fitness habit.
Weâve talked before about injuries and how you can deal with them if they arrive as well as how to know if you are indeed injured.
What we havenât really covered before, though, is how to successfully resume training after youâve recovered from an injury.
How do you start back up with training once youâre healed up and cleared by your doctor?
Is there a way to ease back into training that ensures you quickly and safely return to where you were before?
In this episode of the GMB Show, Andy and Ryan reveal their smart strategies for safely and effectively resuming training after recovering from an injury.
Youâll hear:
- 13:48 – How to deal with injuries when they do happen.
- 15:50 – Hereâs how you can tell if youâre ready to resume training.
- 17:17 – How to handle your first day back.
- 21:47 – The order of fitness attributes you may âloseâ if you take a bunch of time off.
- 26:35 – Ryanâs âscientificâ formula for how much time to give yourself to get back into your program.
An important thing to remember when youâre coming back from an injury is that youâre not going to be able to just start right where you left off, so always approach your first session back as a trial run.
The key to resuming training is to give yourself time to regress in order to progress. Do that, and youâll go a long way to setting yourself up for injury-free success.
Returning to Training After A Break
Andy: All right. Breaker, breaker one-niner, get your ears on for the GMB Fitness Skills Show. Over the next 30 minutes plus or minus, weâre going to be hitting you with all kinds of great information for your training, for your life and how to do it in a way thatâs actually fun and enjoyable.
So my name is Andy. Here with my Ryan Hurst, the man, the myth, the legend, the aging rock icon.
Ryan: I love it.
Andy: A little â the Hank Rollins [0:00:45] [Phonetic] there.
Ryan: A little Henry for you. Whatâs up everybody? Whatâs up? Whatâs up? We got a good show today. Yeah, a good one.
Andy: Yeah. Are you surviving the winter OK so far?
Ryan: Yeah, itâs starting to warm up so things are OK. I actually shaved the hair. I shaved my beard. Yeah.
Andy: I have not shaved in a couple of days. So this is what weâre reduced to now. We have nothing better to talk about than our grooming habits.
Ryan: Thatâs all there is. Thatâs all there is.
Andy: Yeah, which actually isnât true. Weâre going to talk about some actually â I think this is going to be a really useful episode for people because today weâre going to be talking about something that we havenât actually covered at all ever on the show.
Weâve talked a lot about what to do if you get injured, what to do if you get sick, what to do if things get busy and have to take some time off. But the one thing we havenât really discussed is how to get back on track after that.
Itâs how to start backing your training and without losing any more time than necessary. So weâre going to get to that in a few minutes. But first, letâs answer some questions.
Ryan: All right.
[Music]Andy: All right. So weâve made videos about these things and covered them before but itâs always something that comes up again and so I just want to give maybe on one place here some quick advice, simply about equipment.
So letâs talk about rings and parallettes both, what height, what width, how can we tell that theyâre set up properly because especially with rings if theyâre not set up well, the exercises are going to be really hard and I mean you could injure yourself. But whatâs â give us for each of those. What are your recommendations?
Ryan: Yeah, itâs very simple. Just keep it very simple and just keep the rings and the parallettes just a bit wider than shoulder width. A good way to check is if you take your arm and go from elbow to middle finger.
For some people, thatâs actually going to be â I donât want to say too wide but you might feel that you want to bring them in a little bit more. If thatâs the case, then just bend your fingers and go from that knuckle there to set the width of the P bars.
Remember, when youâre setting your P bars, itâs going to sound funny but when you set your P bars, make sure you set the P bars in the middle instead of just doing one end because Iâve seen people like set just the end and their P bars end up making a triangular shape.
The rings are the same way. If youâre hanging your rings from a bar, from a branch, from whatever, place them a little wider than shoulder width. You should be able to feel that because if you feel cramped when doing the rings, it means theyâre just too narrow. Likewise, if you feel like constantly having to pull them in unnaturally, then theyâre too wide.
So thatâs just a basic setting for the width. As far as height, with the parallettes, I would say start off with about a foot in the beginning if you want to just buy one set of parallettes. So if you have the option of having different sets, then maybe you could go a little higher and then just a little lower.
I use a very low set of parallettes but the thing is, is Iâve been doing this for a little while. So as you get closer to the floor, itâs obviously going to be more difficult. So adjust those accordingly.
As far as if youâre using plastic, if youâre using wood or if youâre using pipes or other kinds of metals, you just need to find a pair that you feel that you can use for the long run. So you might want to set them very low to the ground but you also have to think about some of the other exercises that you will be performing down the line and whether or not you will have the proper clearance to be able to perform those movements.
So itâs a preference thing but also a level thing. Just to say it one more time, remember as they get closer to the ground, theyâre going to be more difficult because you wonât have as much clearance on the parallettes.
[Music]Andy: Letâs also talk about height on the rings because with rings, we work actually at three different heights depending on the exercises weâre doing. In our programs, we have three different heights that we use. So how can you tell what is the right height for you for each of those three?
Ryan: Sure. So if we look at a low height, so low would be where weâre working on something like the push-up, the hollow body push-up or even as you get into the more advanced stages and where youâre working on handstands. I suggest taking the rings low to the ground and by low, Iâm talking like six, maybe eight inches off of the ground, just enough so that you have that clearance below. So that in case you need to go down, youâre not going to skim your knuckles or anything on the ground.
So that would be kind of the low level. The mid level, if letâs say youâre just beginning and you want to work on the top position or thereâs some other movements where you just want to get comfortable with being above the rings and pushing down into them, then I would say waist level.
So the reason for this is because youâre still going to be able to have your feet on the ground and use them as training wheels. So if youâre working on the top position, you can start to work on the stability by using your toes and your feet to help you.
Then you can gradually raise them up slightly. Now the highest position at the top, the top, top, top position, if you can, make it as high as you can. An example here in the gym when I set things up for anyone whoâs using the rings, is that thereâs just a slight clearance. So if they jump off of the ground, itâs again upwards of maybe six to eight inches of foot clearance.
This is of course quite challenging and itâs all going to depend on your ceiling. So if youâre using a pull-up bar or something to put your rings on, obviously youâre not going to be able to have them that high.
Something else to always remember is that the longer the strap, the more â or the less stability youâre going to have with the rings. So when you look at gymnasts in the Olympics and you see that theyâre on a ring stand and a ring stand, weâre talking that thing is way up in the air and it has got very, very long cable attached in the rings.
Extremely â the stability of those is just horrible. Now that should let you know just how good they are. But letâs say you go to the playground and there is a pull-up bar that is relatively short, that you can grab a hold of. If you hold your rings on there, theyâre going to be quite stable to be honest because the link of the strap is actually short.
So the shorter the strap, the more stability you will have. If you want to challenge yourself, find a very high ceiling or somewhere where you can hang your rings with a very long link to strap and itâs going to make the movements more difficult.
[Music]Andy: Because a lot of people also ask us too. You mentioned using like a pull-up bar. People ask us all the time. Can I use rings on a doorway pull-up bar? And the answer is yes. Itâs not ideal but itâs totally possible.
Now, you will have to make some adjustments and some compromises if thatâs the set-up you have. Youâre not going to be able to do full muscle-ups with full range of motion from hanging all the way below and hanging up over because you would put your head through the roof.
But itâs possible to begin to lower the rings and sit down on the floor even and practice muscle-ups in an L-sit position or something like that.
So donât let your environmental situations prevent you from being able to practice things you want to practice but know whatâs ideal and then make adjustments based on the environmental situation that you have to work with.
Ryan: Exactly. Thatâs a very good point. I mean just because you donât have the clearance to be able to perform a particular move that you canât get creative and you brought up a good point of lowering the rings to the point where youâre actually sitting on the ground.
This is something that I actually worked on just to improve my muscle-ups. Now itâs lowering the rings so I had to sit on the ground with my legs out in front of me and work on pulling from there.
You donât get a lot of English going on in the body when youâre sitting on the ground. This is actually a very good way to help you strengthen your muscle-ups and your chin-ups.
Andy: Yeah, yeah, definitely. So very good, very good. So definitely those are recommendations, basics, and itâs always going to depend on you a little bit and where your level is at. So donât take any of these as written in stone. Itâs not scripture. Figure out whatâs going to work for your situation.
Ryan: Yes.
Andy: Anything else to say about equipment, setup, things like that?
Ryan: Just be safe and you can see some pretty funny videos of people using a chin-up bar between a doorframe and the thing comes crashing down. If youâre performing a pull-up, yeah, that might be funny and itâs going to be OK. But if youâre inverted, if youâre upside down performing something on the rings and that bar comes crashing down, thereâs a possibility that you could break your neck and we donât want that.
So whatever you do use, a tree, a limb, a tree branch, whatever, it doesnât matter. Make sure that it is properly attached and stable before you get upside down.
Andy: Yeah.
[Music]Andy: Always make sure your equipment is solid. Thatâs one reason why we recommend the rings we recommend. Right now, the best ones weâve seen in terms of being comfortable and solid and made by a reputable manufacturer, Rogue, the wooden rings. We like this a lot. I actually had somebody send an email a few days ago. Why do you recommend those?
Well, hey man, if you donât like our recommendation, use something else. But we recommend them because in our experience, in the experience we do have, those are the best ones that weâve tried.
Now weâre open to trying more things. A couple of manufacturers have actually asked to send us some rings that weâre waiting to test right now. So that could change.
But we like those because it has those qualities and we feel that theyâre safe and usable. Same things with P bars. We recommend the ones that our client and friend Dusty makes.
Some people say, âWell, what if they get loose after using them?â Well, itâs very easy. Dusty makes them. Quite easily take the Allen keys he sends you and I think after like a year of use, you will have to tighten them once and then they will be solid for the rest of your life.
Ryan: Yeah, and along those lines, I mean I prefer to use the wooden rings and I prefer to use the wooden parallettes. Now that doesnât mean that if you use something else, that itâs wrong.
Find something that you really enjoy using. I know my good friend Mike Fitch, he doesnât use the wooden parallettes. He prefers a different style of parallettes. Thatâs perfectly fine. I mean just find something that you like to use. Make sure that itâs quality, a quality piece of equipment and be safe. Thatâs it.
Andy: Yeah. Same thing with â if budget is a big concern for you, you can go to Amazon and I think MuscleDriver makes a pair of plastic rings and itâs very reasonable. Ultimate Body Press makes a pair of plastic rings. Itâs very reasonable. You can make parallettes out of PVC. Please actually use the pipe cement though because PVC being plastic, it will slip. It will slip if you donât use the cement and weâve heard stories of people having pretty bad accidents on them.
Ryan: Yeah.
Andy: So using cheaper, less expensive things is OK. But make sure that you test it when youâre using it.
[Music]Andy: So with that said, letâs say that you did forget to use the pipe cement. You slipped on your P bars and twisted your wrist or something and had to take some time off of P1 for example and you healed up. Youâre ready to go.
How do you start back? We will get specific maybe in a couple of minutes but maybe Ryan just talk about starting back. I mean youâve been injured. Youâve been sick in various phases in your training so to speak. So maybe what do you really think is the most important consideration?
Ryan: Well, first and foremost, if you did injure yourself, the first thing you need to do is get the doctorâs OK to make sure that itâs OK to start training again. We canât stress that enough. Thatâs very important.
But once you get the OK, and youâre ready to get back into it, the most important thing is to remember that youâre not going to be able to start where you left off and so if you go back into your workout and think that youâre going to just jump right back into it and be able to perform at the same level, well, youâre sorely mistaken and youâre probably going to end up injuring yourself again.
So the thing is to really take a few steps back. It can be humbling but really just put your ego to the side and understand that youâve got to start over again. It doesnât mean from the very beginning.
Andy: No.
Ryan: Now, the strength will come back very quickly. This is not something where youâre going to lose all of your gains if you happen to take a week off or something like that and if youâre talking about â letâs just look at the injury first, then we will talk about sickness in a moment. But if youâre looking at an injury, depending on the injury, when you go back and start training, first and foremost is stepping back but also taking stock of that injury.
What is the feeling youâre getting from it? Does it feel â I donât want to say strong because obviously if itâs an injury, it is going to be weak. But does it feel safe? Are you performing? Are you doing something where you can build from there?
Andy: Do you have the requisite level of physical integrity? By integrity, that means if you injured a bone, is the bone solid enough to continue? Itâs not going to be as strong as before but if you injured a muscle or a ligament or something, can you â is it strong enough? Â Like you said, it will be weaker. But does it have the structural integrity to pick up?
Ryan: To put load on it and use it.
[Music]Ryan: What youâre also going to find is when youâre coming back from an injury, is that youâre going to end up favoring that injury maybe without even knowing it. So this is going to change your form in the movement. So thatâs another thing you need to look at and that is why we go back to maybe even the very first basic movement and we do a systems analysis of whatâs going on.
Whereâs your form? Are you favoring that particular injury? Are you able to place a load on that injury safely? And then the next day you need to check and see how you feel after performing that first day back.
So there are a lot of little things to look out here and thatâs why I suggest not just jumping back into it. You might feel great. You might go into work and go, âOh yeah, Iâm feeling awesome. Yeah.â
The next day you wake up and letâs say you injured your wrist before, the next day, you wake up and if itâs hurting so badly, youâre like, âOh man, I think I did something to it,â well you did way too much that first day back.
Andy: Yeah, and thatâs a really important point that I think a lot of people donât even consider is that your first day back to training, your first return to training, your first session should always be looked at as a trial. You should view it as a trial. This is not the beginning of your new program. This is not â OK, I can start and just go now. No, itâs not like that. Itâs a test. Itâs always a test and as such you should do the minimum amount. Do the minimal amount. Warm up properly. Do a minimal amount. Do not push yourself towards your limits and then see how you feel. You canât tell how you feel right away.
You may feel great but still consider it a test because you might not know until the next day like you said. So always, always, always let your first session back be a test.
This is true of any kind of training weâre talking about. Youâre not going to miss anything. If youâve taken three days off or a week off or a month off, youâre not going to lose out on anything or fall behind by letting your first day be a trial.
So go on and take that chance to know for sure and see how you do feel and see how you feel the next day and then you will have a lot better idea of what your level truly is when youâre trying to get back into things.
[Music]Ryan: If you are coming back from an injury, and letâs say it was pretty bad. Letâs say you had a very nasty sprain or heaven forbid, you tore something, a ligament or something like that.
Make sure that your workouts donât interfere with your rehabilitation of that injury. So if your PT or depending on what country youâre in, your physio says, âOK, I just want you working on this rehab for this particular joint,â or whatever, just do that. No more. So again, listen to your doctor and then when you go back to it, make those â I donât want to say adjustments but find out whatâs going on so that you can start to work on building it up later. I mean later after you check everything out.
Now looking at sickness, if youâve been sick, letâs say â an example of me is I had a very bad sinus infection. It wasnât that I was sick. It was that I was so congested that it hurt to be upside down.
Now, obviously, I didnât go upside down. That was very simple. Thereâs nothing to get around it. Thatâs one of those things where I just find it funny where people are like Iâm just going to push through the pain. Iâm like ⌠[0:20:00]
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